Comments on: Companies Fail with First Job College Graduates http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/ Career Advice for Cubicle Warriors Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:37:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-4283 Scot Herrick Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:06:56 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-4283 <a href="#comment-4281" rel="nofollow">@Erika</a> - I agree. I think it is more of an issue with engagement rather than career advancement. Career advancement, as described in the survey, just doesn't make much sense. @Erika -
I agree. I think it is more of an issue with engagement rather than career advancement. Career advancement, as described in the survey, just doesn’t make much sense.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-6126 Scot Herrick Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:06:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-6126 <a href="#comment-4281" rel="nofollow">@Erika</a> - I agree. I think it is more of an issue with engagement rather than career advancement. Career advancement, as described in the survey, just doesn't make much sense. @Erika -
I agree. I think it is more of an issue with engagement rather than career advancement. Career advancement, as described in the survey, just doesn’t make much sense.

]]> By: Erika http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-4281 Erika Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:47:55 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-4281 I can't help but wonder when I see these numbers whether all those companies really did fail to offer paths for career advancement. It just seems to me that often young people lack the maturity to see the forest through the trees, so to speak. They say they don't mind starting at the bottom but then chafe when tasked with the grunt work. I can’t help but wonder when I see these numbers whether all those companies really did fail to offer paths for career advancement. It just seems to me that often young people lack the maturity to see the forest through the trees, so to speak. They say they don’t mind starting at the bottom but then chafe when tasked with the grunt work.

]]> By: Erika http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-6125 Erika Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:47:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-6125 I can't help but wonder when I see these numbers whether all those companies really did fail to offer paths for career advancement. It just seems to me that often young people lack the maturity to see the forest through the trees, so to speak. They say they don't mind starting at the bottom but then chafe when tasked with the grunt work. I can’t help but wonder when I see these numbers whether all those companies really did fail to offer paths for career advancement. It just seems to me that often young people lack the maturity to see the forest through the trees, so to speak. They say they don’t mind starting at the bottom but then chafe when tasked with the grunt work.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-4274 Scot Herrick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:00:57 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-4274 <a href="#comment-4266" rel="nofollow">@Terrence Seamon</a> - Most likely, there is both an employee and management issue. A person just entering the workforce from college "doesn't know what they don't know." It could be you had one offer out of college and you took it. Or, you had several offers and took the one that looked right on the outside without asking questions about the culture of the company. The pace of the work world is entirely different than the world of college and we provide little preparation for that change. The management, I agree, has assumptions that a person coming out of college knows how work actually works when that is not the case. Throw in some poor management style on top of all this and it is not surprising that there is a great deal of disillusionment for college graduates entering the workforce. @Terrence Seamon -
Most likely, there is both an employee and management issue. A person just entering the workforce from college “doesn’t know what they don’t know.” It could be you had one offer out of college and you took it. Or, you had several offers and took the one that looked right on the outside without asking questions about the culture of the company. The pace of the work world is entirely different than the world of college and we provide little preparation for that change.

The management, I agree, has assumptions that a person coming out of college knows how work actually works when that is not the case. Throw in some poor management style on top of all this and it is not surprising that there is a great deal of disillusionment for college graduates entering the workforce.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-6124 Scot Herrick Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:00:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-6124 <a href="#comment-4266" rel="nofollow">@Terrence Seamon</a> - Most likely, there is both an employee and management issue. A person just entering the workforce from college "doesn't know what they don't know." It could be you had one offer out of college and you took it. Or, you had several offers and took the one that looked right on the outside without asking questions about the culture of the company. The pace of the work world is entirely different than the world of college and we provide little preparation for that change. The management, I agree, has assumptions that a person coming out of college knows how work actually works when that is not the case. Throw in some poor management style on top of all this and it is not surprising that there is a great deal of disillusionment for college graduates entering the workforce. @Terrence Seamon -
Most likely, there is both an employee and management issue. A person just entering the workforce from college “doesn’t know what they don’t know.” It could be you had one offer out of college and you took it. Or, you had several offers and took the one that looked right on the outside without asking questions about the culture of the company. The pace of the work world is entirely different than the world of college and we provide little preparation for that change.

The management, I agree, has assumptions that a person coming out of college knows how work actually works when that is not the case. Throw in some poor management style on top of all this and it is not surprising that there is a great deal of disillusionment for college graduates entering the workforce.

]]> By: Terrence Seamon http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-4266 Terrence Seamon Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:26:51 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-4266 Very interesting, Scot, and troubling. Like you, I am skeptical of the quote “61% of those who are no longer with their first employer said their first employer did not provide a clear path for career advancement within the organization.” I wonder if it was a lack of any meaningful communication and social bonding based on actual work. I've seen some young newbies hired, and then neglected. Given no real work to do, they are left to wither on the vine in their cubicles. It's a failure of management, in my view. I have a dual stake in this: On the personal side, my sons are both rising through college and will soon make the transition to the World of Work. On the professional side (I work at the American Management Association in NY), I am also interested in this transition. We are planning a webcast on this topic for late August. Interested in brainstorming? Terry Very interesting, Scot, and troubling.

Like you, I am skeptical of the quote “61% of those who are no longer with their first employer said their first employer did not provide a clear path for career advancement within the organization.”

I wonder if it was a lack of any meaningful communication and social bonding based on actual work. I’ve seen some young newbies hired, and then neglected. Given no real work to do, they are left to wither on the vine in their cubicles. It’s a failure of management, in my view.

I have a dual stake in this:

On the personal side, my sons are both rising through college and will soon make the transition to the World of Work.

On the professional side (I work at the American Management Association in NY), I am also interested in this transition. We are planning a webcast on this topic for late August. Interested in brainstorming?

Terry

]]> By: Terrence Seamon http://cuberules.com/2008/06/24/companies-fail-with-first-job-college-graduates/comment-page-1/#comment-6123 Terrence Seamon Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:26:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/?p=801#comment-6123 Very interesting, Scot, and troubling. Like you, I am skeptical of the quote “61% of those who are no longer with their first employer said their first employer did not provide a clear path for career advancement within the organization.” I wonder if it was a lack of any meaningful communication and social bonding based on actual work. I've seen some young newbies hired, and then neglected. Given no real work to do, they are left to wither on the vine in their cubicles. It's a failure of management, in my view. I have a dual stake in this: On the personal side, my sons are both rising through college and will soon make the transition to the World of Work. On the professional side (I work at the American Management Association in NY), I am also interested in this transition. We are planning a webcast on this topic for late August. Interested in brainstorming? Terry Very interesting, Scot, and troubling.

Like you, I am skeptical of the quote “61% of those who are no longer with their first employer said their first employer did not provide a clear path for career advancement within the organization.”

I wonder if it was a lack of any meaningful communication and social bonding based on actual work. I’ve seen some young newbies hired, and then neglected. Given no real work to do, they are left to wither on the vine in their cubicles. It’s a failure of management, in my view.

I have a dual stake in this:

On the personal side, my sons are both rising through college and will soon make the transition to the World of Work.

On the professional side (I work at the American Management Association in NY), I am also interested in this transition. We are planning a webcast on this topic for late August. Interested in brainstorming?

Terry

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