Comments on: Bad career advice is worse than no advice at all http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/ Career Advice for Cubicle Warriors Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:37:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: Career Tips are Heard Here First | Cube Rules http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-4836 Career Tips are Heard Here First | Cube Rules Sun, 03 May 2009 05:40:40 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-4836 [...] At least these traditional media points make some sense. Unlike bad career advice is worse than no advice at all. [...] [...] At least these traditional media points make some sense. Unlike bad career advice is worse than no advice at all. [...]

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-3041 Scot Herrick Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:57:18 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-3041 It's tough when you have a manager that you know isn't going to cut it. If you think that there is "75% corporate churn" and you will only report to him or her for a year -- is that enough to hang on for instead of leaving? Or, is it so bad that just being associated with that manager is the kiss of death within the company? Those are tough questions. Empirically, we know we should get out of the bad situation, but the variables are sometimes tough to figure out. Steve...thanks for sharing. It always amazes me the diverse situations out there. It’s tough when you have a manager that you know isn’t going to cut it. If you think that there is “75% corporate churn” and you will only report to him or her for a year — is that enough to hang on for instead of leaving? Or, is it so bad that just being associated with that manager is the kiss of death within the company?

Those are tough questions. Empirically, we know we should get out of the bad situation, but the variables are sometimes tough to figure out.

Steve…thanks for sharing. It always amazes me the diverse situations out there.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5980 Scot Herrick Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:57:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-5980 It's tough when you have a manager that you know isn't going to cut it. If you think that there is "75% corporate churn" and you will only report to him or her for a year -- is that enough to hang on for instead of leaving? Or, is it so bad that just being associated with that manager is the kiss of death within the company? Those are tough questions. Empirically, we know we should get out of the bad situation, but the variables are sometimes tough to figure out. Steve...thanks for sharing. It always amazes me the diverse situations out there. It’s tough when you have a manager that you know isn’t going to cut it. If you think that there is “75% corporate churn” and you will only report to him or her for a year — is that enough to hang on for instead of leaving? Or, is it so bad that just being associated with that manager is the kiss of death within the company?

Those are tough questions. Empirically, we know we should get out of the bad situation, but the variables are sometimes tough to figure out.

Steve…thanks for sharing. It always amazes me the diverse situations out there.

]]> By: Steve http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-3024 Steve Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:21:24 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-3024 The "bad advice" smacks of someone just "making up copy" rather than sage advice. The worse career advice I've personally ever received was being talked out of "firing" a boss who was hell. Once I woke up that the guy not only wasn't on the same team as his subordinates, but that he was really more of an "enemy" than ANY of our competition, it wasn't hard to help him get ivited to pick a new career. The "play nice" advice I was first given was pure idealistic crap. In fariness the offerer of the advice was in "career twilight" and didn't want to rock the boat as they closed in on retirement. In hindsight I should have dedicated myself to my firm and my own personal joint needs - and those were to quickly purge our organization of this fool. Took a bit to wake up and smell the coffee, but it paid dividends when it happened. Cheers, Steve The “bad advice” smacks of someone just “making up copy” rather than sage advice.

The worse career advice I’ve personally ever received was being talked out of “firing” a boss who was hell. Once I woke up that the guy not only wasn’t on the same team as his subordinates, but that he was really more of an “enemy” than ANY of our competition, it wasn’t hard to help him get ivited to pick a new career.

The “play nice” advice I was first given was pure idealistic crap. In fariness the offerer of the advice was in “career twilight” and didn’t want to rock the boat as they closed in on retirement.

In hindsight I should have dedicated myself to my firm and my own personal joint needs – and those were to quickly purge our organization of this fool.

Took a bit to wake up and smell the coffee, but it paid dividends when it happened.

Cheers,

Steve

]]> By: Steve http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5979 Steve Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:21:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-5979 The "bad advice" smacks of someone just "making up copy" rather than sage advice. The worse career advice I've personally ever received was being talked out of "firing" a boss who was hell. Once I woke up that the guy not only wasn't on the same team as his subordinates, but that he was really more of an "enemy" than ANY of our competition, it wasn't hard to help him get ivited to pick a new career. The "play nice" advice I was first given was pure idealistic crap. In fariness the offerer of the advice was in "career twilight" and didn't want to rock the boat as they closed in on retirement. In hindsight I should have dedicated myself to my firm and my own personal joint needs - and those were to quickly purge our organization of this fool. Took a bit to wake up and smell the coffee, but it paid dividends when it happened. Cheers, Steve The “bad advice” smacks of someone just “making up copy” rather than sage advice.

The worse career advice I’ve personally ever received was being talked out of “firing” a boss who was hell. Once I woke up that the guy not only wasn’t on the same team as his subordinates, but that he was really more of an “enemy” than ANY of our competition, it wasn’t hard to help him get ivited to pick a new career.

The “play nice” advice I was first given was pure idealistic crap. In fariness the offerer of the advice was in “career twilight” and didn’t want to rock the boat as they closed in on retirement.

In hindsight I should have dedicated myself to my firm and my own personal joint needs – and those were to quickly purge our organization of this fool.

Took a bit to wake up and smell the coffee, but it paid dividends when it happened.

Cheers,

Steve

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-3019 Scot Herrick Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:08:28 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-3019 I read this in Newsweek and just couldn't believe how off the advice was in the article. I've laid people off and have been laid off and "looking busy" just doesn't cut it. Delivery of your work counts more than anything else -- and sometimes that isn't enough either. Thanks for the comment, Andrea -- I really appreciate it. I read this in Newsweek and just couldn’t believe how off the advice was in the article. I’ve laid people off and have been laid off and “looking busy” just doesn’t cut it. Delivery of your work counts more than anything else — and sometimes that isn’t enough either.

Thanks for the comment, Andrea — I really appreciate it.

]]> By: Scot Herrick http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5978 Scot Herrick Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:08:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-5978 I read this in Newsweek and just couldn't believe how off the advice was in the article. I've laid people off and have been laid off and "looking busy" just doesn't cut it. Delivery of your work counts more than anything else -- and sometimes that isn't enough either. Thanks for the comment, Andrea -- I really appreciate it. I read this in Newsweek and just couldn’t believe how off the advice was in the article. I’ve laid people off and have been laid off and “looking busy” just doesn’t cut it. Delivery of your work counts more than anything else — and sometimes that isn’t enough either.

Thanks for the comment, Andrea — I really appreciate it.

]]> By: Andrea http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-3014 Andrea Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:40:33 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-3014 Scot, You make some really good points here. "Pretending" to be busy is not going to fool anyone, and will in fact probably just make you feel demoralized. Finding a way to be productive with your time at work--whether or not you have a ton of assignments--is a much better idea. Thanks for your insight. Scot,
You make some really good points here. “Pretending” to be busy is not going to fool anyone, and will in fact probably just make you feel demoralized. Finding a way to be productive with your time at work–whether or not you have a ton of assignments–is a much better idea. Thanks for your insight.

]]> By: Andrea http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5977 Andrea Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:40:00 +0000 http://cuberules.com/2008/02/13/bad-career-advice-is-worse-than-no-advice-at-all/#comment-5977 Scot, You make some really good points here. "Pretending" to be busy is not going to fool anyone, and will in fact probably just make you feel demoralized. Finding a way to be productive with your time at work--whether or not you have a ton of assignments--is a much better idea. Thanks for your insight. Scot,
You make some really good points here. “Pretending” to be busy is not going to fool anyone, and will in fact probably just make you feel demoralized. Finding a way to be productive with your time at work–whether or not you have a ton of assignments–is a much better idea. Thanks for your insight.

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